Teaching basic lab skills
for research computing

Second Round at Lawrence Berkeley

Last week we finished up our second workshop at Lawrence Berkeley Lab. This time around, we tried a more free-form version of the feedback exercise in which students live-typed their feedback into an Etherpad at the end of each day. This went very well, as it gave us time to gather unique comments, get a rough idea of the amount of support for each comment, and to respond to some of the comments in real time. We asked three questions: what was good, what was bad/confusing, and what we didn't do or talk about that we should have.

The Good

  • Introduction to python and how to install things with command lines
  • Understanding python objects, classes, functions, methods, etc.
  • Thinking about how to structure the directories for a project
  • Hearing how regular Python users use Python (+1)
  • Just getting finally to write some .py code!
  • Real world example-driven exercises
  • Knowledge of helpful data types in Python
  • iPython notebook and Etherpad are amazing (+1)
  • The party on the Etherpad !!!!! (+1 +1) [Ed: the students had some fun "passing notes" in the Etherpad]
  • Patient, fast, specific help (+1)
  • An explanation of git from people who use git (+1 +1 +1)
  • Inside structure of git
  • You put a lot of things in my brain in a very short time (+1)
  • Standalone scripts is my new goal for my code!
  • Start thinking about how to test code for reusability
  • Danish and coffee / snacks / food juice

The Bad or Confusing

  • Python version issues, especially multiple Python versions on same system (+1 +1 +1)
  • Relationship between Anaconda/IPython/Enthought/system Python
  • Use of iPython Notebook vs console, roles in real-world code development (+1)
  • Glossary/handout on Python would have been helpful for beginners
  • Most of the Unix tutorial was extremely basic (+1 +1 +1) [Ed: There were two follow ups to this comment in which students said they needed the basic tutorial badly.]
  • Worrying about whether to abandon perl and R for python - then I'd have to start the learning curve all over.
  • Too fast for beginners, but noticed that others were bored (+1)
  • Not enough 'signposting' during talks/lessons
  • It's over now :\

Things We Didn't Do or Talk About But Should Have

  • Online "getting started with Unix" tutorial before class (+1 +1 +1)
  • Making and annotating/labelling plots, more Matplotlib (+1 +1)
  • Discussion of computational and memory efficiency
  • "Best practices" for developing and maintaining code (+1 +1 +1 +1)
  • Fitting data (+1 +1)
  • How to share code, etc. with those who don't use version control
  • Working with specific types of data (ie, DNA)
  • More about modules and importing, common bugs, etc.
  • Is there a better way to find help than google and stackoverflow?
  • Overhead when working with extremeley large data sets

Thanks to Shreyas Cholia and to instructors Matthew Brett, Cindee Madison, and Ariel Rokem and helpers Paul Ivanov and Matt Terry.


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